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i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. -- more efficiently at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president has put in place almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> when i walked into the oval office i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars paid for on a credit card, two cuts that are not pay for, programs that were not paid for, a massive economic crisis. despite that, yes, we had to take some emergency measures to make sure we did not slip into a great depression. let's make sure we are cutting out things that are not helping us grow.
i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. -- more efficiently at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits...
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-pi am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i am not going to keep spending money on things and borrowing money from china to pay for it. number two, i will take programs that are currentlyygood programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send it to the states. number three, i will make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combined some agencies and departments. the cuts would be done by attrition, by the way. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled it. trrllion dollar deficit for the last four years. president has put us in almost as much public debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> when i walked into the oval office, i had more than a trillion dollar deficit reading me, and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card, two tax cuts that were not paid for, and a whole bunch of programs that were not paid for, and then a massive economic crisis. despite that, yes, we had to take some init
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jim i'm going to stop subsidy to pbs. i like pbs and i like you, too. but i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> the fact is if you're running the race the way you describe, governor and it's not possible to come up with enough deductions and loophole that's only fikt high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class, it's math. it's arithmetic. >> republicans insist the policies are failures and democrats say governor romney doesn't have a specific plan. republican senator johnson joins us from denver. you've been in the bubble of the debate. and most people sh most polls which are inaccurate show governor romney won this debate. and i'm curious what you think overall impact will be for the candidate? >> this is a really great performance by the governor. and i think it resets the campaign giving him on opportunity to take his case to the american people. and so mup of what people have heard, seen, read about mitt romney comes through a filter, tonight he has a chance
jim i'm going to stop subsidy to pbs. i like pbs and i like you, too. but i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> the fact is if you're running the race the way you describe, governor and it's not possible to come up with enough deductions and loophole that's only fikt high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class, it's math. it's arithmetic. >> republicans insist the policies are failures and...
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i'm sorry, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep spending on things from china to pay for it. if that's the case, it will be the best product to purchase. my experience is the private sector is typically able to provide a product at a lower cost. >> can the two of you agree, the voters have a clear choice on medicare? >> absolutely. let's mention the other one. >> let's not. >> the last point i would make before -- >> ten minutes is up, sir. >> i had five seconds before he interrupted me -- >> joining us to sort through the debate, the executive editor of politico, jim van dehide. thanks for waking up early. cnn viewers, 67% of them said mitt romney had a better night. what is your view after watching it? >> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven perf
i'm sorry, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep spending on things from china to pay for it. if that's the case, it will be the best product to purchase. my experience is the private sector is typically able to provide a product at a lower cost. >> can the two of you agree, the voters have a clear choice on medicare? >> absolutely. let's mention the other one. >> let's not. >> the last point i would make before -- >> ten...
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president. >> i like it. >> i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like you, too. but i am not going to spend monothings to borrow money from china to pay for t. number 2, i will take programs that are good programs that if they are run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number 3, i will make government more efficient and cut employees and combine agencies and departments. my cutbacks will be done through atrittion, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled t. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much as all prior presidents combine. >> jim: mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked in the oval office. himore than a trillion-dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card, two tax cuts that were not paid for and a whole bunch of programs that are not paid for. and then, a massive economic
president. >> i like it. >> i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like you, too. but i am not going to spend monothings to borrow money from china to pay for t. number 2, i will take programs that are good programs that if they are run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number 3, i will make government more efficient and cut employees and combine agencies and departments. my cutbacks will be done through atrittion, by the way. this is the...
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i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things, and i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you too. >> one of the most surprising parts of the president's performance was what he did not say. no mention of romney's infamous 47% remark, no talk about bain capital, nothing about romney's own taxes. he did play the romney is a hypocrite card when it comes to health care. >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well in massachusetts because governor romney did a good thing working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and as a consequence people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs. >> romney, who ran from his massachusetts health care plan during the gop primaries, now used it to tag to the middle for the general election. >> i like the way we did it in massachusetts. i like the fact that in 3450i my state we had republicans and democrats come together and work together. what you did instead was to push through a plan without a single republican vote. >> and romney's countless hours
i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things, and i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you too. >> one of the most surprising parts of the president's performance was what he did not say. no mention of romney's infamous 47% remark, no talk about bain capital, nothing about romney's own taxes. he did play the romney is a hypocrite card when it comes to health care. >> the irony is that we've seen this model work really well in massachusetts because...
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. >>> i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going keep on spending money on things to borrow flown china 350 topay for it. >> and that is one of the most memorable quiets -- quotes. as soon as it hit the airways, everyone was abuzz on twitter and facebook to have their say in the political showdown. he's more. >> i don't want to kill jobs. >> governor romney ruled out revenue. >> reporter: as the country buzzes with scorecards from the first presidential debate, it seems the biggest winner is social media. >> this is the biggest debate in terms of the use of twitter and mass use of facebook. >> reporter: wednesday's debate was the most tweeted event in u.s. political history; it was the fourth most tweeted telecast of any kind. about 11 million comments coming down fast on platforms like twitter and facebook in realtime. and who won and who lost also clear. experts finding more than 47,000 tweets mentioning gop presidential candidate mitt romney and the words win or winner compared to a little over
. >>> i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going keep on spending money on things to borrow flown china 350 topay for it. >> and that is one of the most memorable quiets -- quotes. as soon as it hit the airways, everyone was abuzz on twitter and facebook to have their say in the political showdown. he's more. >> i don't want to kill jobs. >> governor romney ruled out revenue. >> reporter: as the country buzzes with scorecards from the first...
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i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this, with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a close ally of the eight foot tall bird, was asked about it at the briefing. >> i'm not going to get into politics here. i wouldn't want to ruffle any feathers, so to speak. >> reporter: but big bird has some conservatives a little plucked. they argue that it's time to stop funding public broadcast programs like sesame street, npr and the pbs news hour. brian darling is with the conservative heritage foundation. >> it's not well spent at all. using public funds to fund different news outlets, to fund entertainment programs, is not what the federal government should b
i like pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. ♪ i love to move to the music >> reporter: the mere mention of cutting funds to big bird sent the social media world into high gear. pictures like this, with big bird on the ropes. president obama on the campaign trail. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> reporter: the pentagon, which has been a...
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i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things, and i like pbs, and i love big bird. i like you too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. [ screaming ] >> okay. the last part definitely doctored. we're just guessing that. fake big bird got right on to twitter in no time. by this morning big bird had almost 25,000 followers. look what big bird has been tweeting out. i like being able to fire people and large talking birds, mitt romney. 47% of chick-fil-a chickens think their victims -- birds of a feather collect food stamps together. mitt romney. i'm about to fly south for the tax season. caymen islandsbound, hash tag. breaking news, donald trump deman's to see big bird hatched eggs certificate. big bird is now trending big on social media. just take a look at some of the photoshop that is we've pulled up from the internet and there are hundreds. that's my favorite right there. we to cut off the expletive at the bottom. the mentions of big bir
i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things, and i like pbs, and i love big bird. i like you too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. [ screaming ] >> okay. the last part definitely doctored. we're just guessing that. fake big bird got right on to twitter in no time. by this morning big bird had almost 25,000 followers. look what big bird has been tweeting out. i like being able to fire people and large...
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i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop -- i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you, too. i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money china to pay for. number two, take programs that are good, but would be run more efficiently at state level. i cut back the number of employees in government, combine agencies in departmeand departm. this would be down by attrition. this is what we have to do. the president said he would cult the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled it. trillion dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put it in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> mr. president? two minutes. >> when i walked into the oval office, i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me. and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card. two tax cuts that were not paid for. and a whole bunch of programs that were not paid for. and then a massive economic crisis. and despite that, what we've said is, yes, we had
i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop -- i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you, too. i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money china to pay for. number two, take programs that are good, but would be run more efficiently at state level. i cut back the number of employees in government, combine agencies in departmeand departm. this would be down by attrition. this is what we have to do. the president said he would cult the deficit in half. unfortunately,...
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obama spoke mostly to the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> we still have trillion dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion dollar deficit each of the next four years. >> reporter: these two men, they are virtually strangers to each other personally. they've only met in person three times before tonight. most recently, in passing, on a debate stage in new hampshire way back in 2008, when republicans followed democrats in debate three days before the primaries. and there was this brief encounter on the campaign trail in 2007. >> good luck to you today. >> reporter: and while they have both reached the pinnacle of party politics, they are so different. their talents and their paths to power and their debate styles. so much at stake on that stage tonight. this showdown comes at what might be the critical moment in this campaign. a hinge of political history. polls show the race tightening, just 34 days left in this campaign. and you can already sense in the crowds the special energy of the home stretch. but tonight, surprisingly, and in contrast to the daily scrap on the tra
obama spoke mostly to the moderator, jim lehrer of pbs. >> we still have trillion dollar deficits. the cbo says we'll have a trillion dollar deficit each of the next four years. >> reporter: these two men, they are virtually strangers to each other personally. they've only met in person three times before tonight. most recently, in passing, on a debate stage in new hampshire way back in 2008, when republicans followed democrats in debate three days before the primaries. and there...
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i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president has put in place almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> when i walked into the oval office i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars paid for on a credit card, two cuts that are not pay for, programs that were not paid for, a massive economic crisis. despite that, yes, we had to take some emergency measures to make sure we did not slip into a great depression. let's make sure we are cutting out things that are not helping us grow. 77 government programs from aircrafts th
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debate. >> i like pbs. >> oh! >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn. >> i like big bird. >> really? >> of aaall the things he's going to take flack for, big bird. >> i love big bird. >> you do? >> of course i do. >> apparently i'm dressing like big bird. channeling big bird apparently. much more news ahead, including the latest on tensions between syria and turkey. we'll be watching that. stay with us. get outta the car. ♪ are you ok? the... get in the car. [ male announcer ] the epa estimated 42 mpg highway chevy cruze eco. for wherever life takes you. and now qualified buyers can get 0% apr financing for 48 months on a 2012 cruze. ♪ droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ? droid does. with verizon, america's largest 4g lte network, and motorola, droid does. get $100 off select motorola 4g lte smartphones like the droid razr. stop! stop! stop! come back here! humans -- we are beautifully imperfect cr
debate. >> i like pbs. >> oh! >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn. >> i like big bird. >> really? >> of aaall the things he's going to take flack for, big bird. >> i love big bird. >> you do? >> of course i do. >> apparently i'm dressing like big bird. channeling big bird apparently. much more news ahead, including the latest on tensions between syria and turkey. we'll be watching that. stay with us. get outta the car. ♪ are you ok? the......
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we just went on pbs in washington, d.c. and whuc at howard university and we are now on over 1100 stations. it was originally from pacifica radio. that was founded in the bay area 60 years ago. over 300 radio stations take it all over the world. i think this is because of the hunger for independent voices. and to bend, authentic voices -- independent, authentic voice is all over the world. host: we are talking with amy goodman, the host of "to mobocracy now" and author of "the silent majority." caller: good morning. you got your priorities right -- war is hell. if we could negotiate with stalin, we could negotiate with iran. as far as business, we have the highest corporate tax in the world. can adjust lower theirs down to sit -- 15%. guest: i agree that war is hell. i co-authored this book with dennis moynihan as we travel the country and broadcast from all over, bringing out these issues and engaging in discussion about what will make us safer in this country. ultimately, it is about shoring up this country. that will inc
we just went on pbs in washington, d.c. and whuc at howard university and we are now on over 1100 stations. it was originally from pacifica radio. that was founded in the bay area 60 years ago. over 300 radio stations take it all over the world. i think this is because of the hunger for independent voices. and to bend, authentic voices -- independent, authentic voice is all over the world. host: we are talking with amy goodman, the host of "to mobocracy now" and author of "the...
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. >> jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. stop other things. i like pbs, i love big bird, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: let the mockery begin. obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >> reporter: big bird started his own big bird parody account. reacted by crying and showed up in a deployment split screen. >> i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: his reaction was a scream. >> not going to keep spending on money to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> aghh! >> reporter: his response included a message. >> f-u-m-i -- >> reporter: a message spilled out for myth. and this isn't the first time that mitt romney has stalked big bird. >> i like big bird and bert and ernie for my grandkids to like. >> reporter: o. >> he got rid of your jobs, now he wants to get rid of b
. >> jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. stop other things. i like pbs, i love big bird, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: let the mockery begin. obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >>...
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i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird, and i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs s that are currently good programbut will be run more efficiently at the state level. number three, i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees, cut agencies into departments. my cutbacks would be done through attrition, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he'd cut the deficit in hamp. unfortunately, he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> lehrer: mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked in the oval office i had more than a $1 trillion deficit greeting me, and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card. two tax cuts that were not paid
i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird, and i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs s that are currently good programbut will be run more efficiently at the state level. number three, i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees, cut agencies into departments. my cutbacks would be...
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i like pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> there are some snap polls including this one that says among uncommitted voters, mitt romney was the clear winner last night. he may get a boost in the polls. the question is will it last? in washington, doug luzader, fox news. fox news. >> also related to last night's debate, the brand kitchen aid is apologizing for an offensive political tweet. the post, which has now been removed, was sent out from the company's official account during the presidential debates. it read, obama's gma or grandma even knew it was going to be bad. she died three days before he became president. now, the tweet was sent after mr. obama referenced his grandmother during the debate while talking about medicare and social security. the company apologized to the president. she said the tweet was carelessly september in error by a member of our twitter team who needless to say will not be tweeting for us anymore. >>> mo
i like pbs. i like big bird. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> there are some snap polls including this one that says among uncommitted voters, mitt romney was the clear winner last night. he may get a boost in the polls. the question is will it last? in washington, doug luzader, fox news. fox news. >> also related to last night's debate, the brand kitchen aid is apologizing for an offensive political tweet. the post, which...
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i like pbs and big bird and i like you too. but i'm not going to keep spending moneythings i have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> so don't boo now. but i want to make sure i got this straight. he will get rid of regulations on wall street but he is going to crack down on seseme street. thank goodness somebody is finally cracking down on big bird. n who knew that he was responsible for the deficits elmo has to watch out. >> joining me now nbc's joy read. he is going to cut 1, 100th of 1% of the federal budget by cutting any subsidies that go to pbs, i don't know, i don't think he is going to get to that balanced budget with that. >> i don't think so. but he will stop those socialists muppets. the problem with the idea of cutting such a small piece of the budget with pbs is medicare and medicaid. he said that he would increase military spending so what mitt romney would be left with would be slashing a third of something else. that would be school lunches and veterans benefits. he would have to slash everything else in
i like pbs and big bird and i like you too. but i'm not going to keep spending moneythings i have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> so don't boo now. but i want to make sure i got this straight. he will get rid of regulations on wall street but he is going to crack down on seseme street. thank goodness somebody is finally cracking down on big bird. n who knew that he was responsible for the deficits elmo has to watch out. >> joining me now nbc's joy read. he is going to cut...
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. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, big bird. i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> cnn political analyst and editorial director of the national journal. hi, ron. >> good morning, carol. >> i know it's not the most important issue of the night. plenty of people actually think lehrer helped mitt romney by allowing him so much time to answer questions. fair? >> i don't know. he has been an important force in presidential debates. last night was not a good night for him. the new format has a lot of strength, allows you to drill down on a subject, providing sustained focus on one area at a time. and he simply did not take advantage of it. he didn't have meaningful follow-ups. he didn't challenge them. he really didn't kind of force them to move beyond their kind of comfort zone and their talking points. i think it was a tremendous missed opportunity. i bet the other moderators will learn from it and being more aggressive in using this tool that the ne
. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, big bird. i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> cnn political analyst and editorial director of the national journal. hi, ron. >> good morning, carol. >> i know it's not the most important issue of the night. plenty of people actually think lehrer helped mitt romney by allowing him so much time to answer questions. fair? >> i...
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. >> romney: i'll cut programs like pbs, i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees, combine agencies and departments. this is the approach we have to take to get america to an balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately he doubled it. trillion dollars deficits for the last four years. the president has put it in place as much public debt -- almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> mr. president? >> obama: when i walked into the oaf value office i had a deficit facing me with two wars that were not paid for, tax cuts that were not paid for, a whole bunch of programs that were not paid for, and a massive economic crisis. yes, we had to taken initial emergency measures. but what we have all said is let's make sure we are cutting out those things that are not helping us grow. to 77 government programs everything from aircrafts that the air force had ordered but won't working very well, 18 government programs for education that were well intentioned but weren't helping kids learn. we
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. >> i am going to stop the subsidee to pbs and other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. >> somebody started a fire big bird twitter account. in a half hour they had 9900 followers. thought to be outdone somebody started a facebook page called big bird for president. the next debate takes place a week from tomorrow in danville, kentucky when vice president joe bid and congssman paul ryan face-off. we will air that debate starting at 6:00. >>> developing news, and police are at the scene of a double homicide that may have resulted from a neighbor dispute. one man was taken from the scene in a police car. officers arrived after 6:00 to find two bodies on the front lawn of a house. a that i bore who lives across the street confronted the men with the firearm. >> a sheriff deputy shot a man in san jose. it happens near the busy cal trans station at about 5:30 tonight. abc7 news reporter uh -- ama dates is here to explain. >> we just learned he was a san jose resident and before he was shot he was on the tracks and acting erratically. the trouble began when an
. >> i am going to stop the subsidee to pbs and other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. >> somebody started a fire big bird twitter account. in a half hour they had 9900 followers. thought to be outdone somebody started a facebook page called big bird for president. the next debate takes place a week from tomorrow in danville, kentucky when vice president joe bid and congssman paul ryan face-off. we will air that debate starting at 6:00. >>> developing news, and police...